The Chronicles of Loth page 19 chapter 8

Thursday, the 20th of October at 11:00 PM, 2011 in A Tale of Desdian
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The Chronicles of Loth page 19 chapter 8

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EFlint Thursday, the 20th of October at 11:00 PM, 2011 edit delete
EFlint
In to the woods and such. Elves. I got nothing. When I first started working on Haz Sci and this comic, I never understood why other artist took breaks from their websites. After these last couple weeks... I'm beginning to see why. But unlike those rich and popular bastards people I have no one to ask for filler strips. So I must continue on, put my shoulders up against the rain blah, blah, who gives a shit. Also, We're probably not going to do comments for awhile, Jason might go ahead and approve some, or you can use the forums, either why, I just need a little peace and quite right now. See you next week.

(Edit:Not that this matters, but you can click the comic image itself(instead of just the next button) to navigate through the archives now!)

Comments:

mirlinthloth Friday, the 21st of October at 9:20 AM, 2011 edit delete reply
mirlinthloth
I'll be working on the forums most of the day. I'm trying to make it more user friendly for everyone. So it looks a little sparse right now.
But you can still post in the Forums. Provided you're a registered member, which is super easy.
groovechampion Friday, the 21st of October at 4:24 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Snipers!
Nameless Saturday, the 22nd of October at 10:00 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Nameless
this should be interesting
Mynameisbob Sunday, the 23rd of October at 2:19 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Mynameisbob
Really curious how the elves are going to react once they meet Ral (since he's only half elf)

Not thrilled that the elves use bows (as seen in soooooo many other comics :/)
mirlinthloth Sunday, the 23rd of October at 2:47 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
mirlinthloth
@Bob, what? You want them sporting Dwarf Tech like the guys in the city did? The idea is that guns and the like are around, but not every Tom Dick and Harry is going to have the skills to use it or if it gets damaged repair it.

For those of you who hate Formulaic writing, this comic is probably going to piss you off. Sorry but there is a reason for this type of writing.

Allow me to give you a 101 on how the publish industry works. You know those awesome Indy comics and books that you can find on the internet? Yeah see those don't get picked up by major publishers often. It happens, but not often enough to bet on. What a smart writer who is trying to appeal to a broad audience does is find enough variances to make his comic stand out/be noticed, but not enough that it'll get completely shot out of the air by editors and publishers when it hits their desk.

My first venture into published writing I sent a manuscript I'd been working on for a year to a publisher. His response do to the subject matter and the brutal nature of the story was "Due to Illness, we cannot publish this work."

So the story, basically a serial killer with a torture fetish, was turned away because even in Horror Genre it was to far to the left... and it probably didn't help it was my first ever full length novel. I've sent it out a few times after tweaking it and normally get the line "Great work can you tone it down some: and other regards like that.

So, Elves with Bows = Fantasy Cliche = Publishers like this = sorry, but I'd like to make a living as a writer and the system is hard to those who don't play a long. So until my name is as popular as Steven King's I kinda have to play the game.

And before anyone decides to refute this knowledge, trust me. I've been to a number of seminars, conventions and the like and every writer who is published says the same thing. You gotta have an in before the publishers pick you up, and normally in order to have an IN, like say an Agent, you have to have get the agent to take a risk on you. eBooks publisher better, but right now publishing in that gray area of if it's about to collapse on it's own stinking corpse and give way to the new industry, or envelop the new born before it has a chance to kill Chronos.
Nameless Sunday, the 23rd of October at 4:16 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Nameless
bows are cooler then guns anyway
groovechampion Monday, the 24th of October at 9:01 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Unfortunately, it is common to see Elves with bows. However, nobody complained when Ral used magic, which is pretty much just a typical thing for elves ;).

Developing new ideas and concepts is not easy. In defense to the writer who already spoke for herself, sometimes it's better to spin along with the wheel than to reinvent it.

IF there is one thing I would say about the bows is that the design is too straightfoward - it is just a bow. Just to give it some more appeal, I'd give it some wacky design. Give it more elegant look or anything curvy.

But on the other hand, these elven guys appear to be ordinary border patrol who just gave a few warning shots right in front of the gang. They are just using standard bows :) and these guys are just ordinary elves.

And remember, there's a rant section on the forums.
If there is one thing I would suggest @ Flint/uploader , it would be to add a url link to every new comic update leading to the forums for commenting/ranting/luvpost.
groovechampion Monday, the 24th of October at 9:06 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Ugh.
I don't know if my last post came through. I had a disconnection due to lousy wifi.

Anyhow; I will just write a short version.

These elves are most likely ordinary border patrol who gave warning shots in front of the gang. And since they are ordinary, they probably just have ordinary bows.

I agree that Elves and bows are just too obvious, but if we'd be worried about cliché stuff, we'd be complaining about Ral using magic, Loth as a half dragon using fire etc.

And as the writer already said for herself, it is sometimes better to just spin with the wheel than to reinvent it.

Personally, I would have given the bow more wacky design; it would look awkward for a bow, but it would at least be unusual :). I'm sure Flint can come up with some nifty ideas for, say, some bow&arrow Ranger-Sniper type with some some sickass recurve bow hehe - but that's just me.

I forgot to add that Cade is just hillarious here. "Hey I see something *thunk thunk thunk* Not that!"
Nameless Tuesday, the 25th of October at 3:44 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Nameless
cyclops means one eye and it's the defining feture of the mythological creature if the gave it more eyes they couldn't call it a cyclops
Nameless Tuesday, the 25th of October at 7:55 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Nameless
well opening up that gate was a big spell so that drain him. then he had to do those other speless on top of that. Then being angry tires you out so I can see why he would be exuasted
groovechampion Wednesday, the 26th of October at 2:01 AM, 2011 edit delete reply
Nameless, I fear they are pulling your leg ^^.

I suppose Loth will want to fight them, but I guess Ral will take care of the diplomatic part. Then again, Loth may be considerate enough for Kinuko's critical state and perhaps surrender?
crzymnky666 Wednesday, the 26th of October at 5:54 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
crzymnky666
i have to agree with groove about the bows, however since i am not an artist by any definition of the word, i dont know how much harder it would be to draw a recurve bow and have it look right than just a standard shortbow (which it looks like they are using). now on to my response to the new page.

first, eflint, nice job on making ral look exausted rather than ancient this time around. he really looks a lot better. the elves are well done, although (nitpickin alert) the one in the green's arms do not appear to be the same size, but due to the angle he is drawn at, i can see how that would be pretty tricky to do.
cade as usual is hilarious in his "innocence", and i am looking forward to the elven response to loth and sevi. Bob, seeing as he was raised by elves, i dont think they will have too many problems with ral, nor do i think they will take issue with helping kinuko. Cade on the other hand may cause trouble. i say this because he is known for taking everything that isnt nailed down when no one is looking and then trying to sell it back to the original owners (modsef for example).

on a completely different note, im going to head over to the forums, which i have not checked out yet, and test the waters there.

cheers all
Nameless Wednesday, the 26th of October at 10:34 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Nameless
yeh if lothand sevi don't cause problems just being there then cade will kst definetly be the sorce of the problem
Nameless Wednesday, the 26th of October at 10:37 PM, 2011 edit delete reply
Nameless
@ crzymonky666: i think his arm looks that way do to forshortning